but there is no democracy in a supranational central banking and moneysystem of perpetual exponential dept
A very interesting discussion!
Ethics = do unto others as you would have then do unto you. Anti virus for the mind , The Bible , The Holy Scripture all of it. Surveillance , it is essential that white collar crime is prosecuted , of politicians , of bureaucrats, of CEO's of oligarchs, monopolists and cartels , of injustice itself .The police cannot be just an organisation of car stoppers , they need to widely prosecute crime in high places , breach of fiduciary trust.
The rabid conifer invariably watch because lift largely suggest towards a gigantic silver. aspiring, black purpose
Harari, a communist advocate for world Government. A curse
The conspiracies reveal the perpetrators of them - the creators of Nazism are the ones 'behind the scene' and they have just decided to experiment on a whole layer of the world. The same was executed with Bulgarians, Armenians and lately to yadizis. It's not different - for money some people create a myth and twist facts , create fake 'facts' and scenarios to convince their imaginary public that their rage and their aggression towards others is acceptable. But it isn't. From human rights, or 'democracy' perspective, it is not.
Sounds like what the people need is a way to validate and trust data. - Blockchain.
Wow Brad. You sure called it didn't you? Not a conspiracy, you are a globalist. This is not Athens or antiquity for that matter. The world is not ready for globalism.
... who will guard the guardians : roman truism ...
... if some Autucrat refuses to concede there is the rub ...
... there is a problem of optimizing out of existence, which st some point might be ' tempting " to some future AI ...
... doged the q re embedding counter-measures ...
47:30 "Fifty people belonging to an organization can accomplish far far more than five hundred individuals working on their own."
Courses in ethics don’t guarantee doctors' ethical behavior, not without the critical role of medical associations.
Liquid democracy is the democracy for 21st century
“ Perhaps George Orwell made only one mistake. He perhaps should have entitled his book 2024 instead of 1984!” Did Microsoft’s president miss something? 👁
Yes. Please collaborate.
Democracy? Democracy will be the excuse that you people use to limit freedom of expression and movement. In the end you'll literally take away the Democratic process....
Is UBI inevitable?
What they all fail to discuss is the vision. We used to know where we're going and why. Maybe we were ignorant in the past, but we had a direction, simple as it was. For the humans who have access to tech, information, etc, those old tropes dont cut it anymore. You can't really objectively convince young people to strive for an abstract undefined and therefore possibly undisirable "future" instead of for experiences and fleeting pleasures we know what they are. We used to believe in the stories but don't anymore. That might be why this is all failing. The loot just isn't as good as it used to be, so people just scrape what they can on the way instead. Is tech a vision? Are drugs? Our brains get used to everything and we can't experience unlimited joy so why bother
There is a fundamental flaw in this discussion, even though the participants are very intelligent. They ignore the fact that a society will always be a mirror of the collective wisdom of the people, and today the collective wisdom is much too low on this planet. If you have not thought about this, please do! This means that all present suggestions how to develop democracy and avoid negative effects of technology, are almost useless. This insight is the watershed between heading for a global total collapse or embarking on a real sustainable and happy future. We need massive personal development, which can be achieved in numerous ways.
Yuval precisely concerns about the ethics for future applications of AI. His thoughts need to be spreaded, realised and learnt to know the present conditions throughout the people of whole world, for forthcoming threat against liberty of citizenship.
The surveilance... That's why secondo me THE MONARCHY doesnt work today
CAN ANYONE LINK ME THE BOOKS PLEASE 20:30
The Corona/Covids 2020 started (manipulated) "Pandemy" for a very rear happened diagnose for and with the actualizations under WHO & local statistics, governments, politicians & virologes is a HUMAN & ECONOMIC catastrophe, wich must be stopped immediately.
There's one argument shared among all tech giants about the technology they are developing, thats the idea that the tools are not evil or good by themself, but is the use humans is what determinate the outcome. If what you're developing have the potential to harm a lot of people its your responsibility. It's like to develop a gun and later say that you developed it to practice agains cans and you're not responsable it someone use it against people. The surveillance on humans can only be a weapon and if you're developing that technology you're the responsable for all the suffer that emerge from their usage. We don't need it at all to live in a better world.
The last 2 minutes of this video, what Yuval says there is the most important thing that will have to happen. Respect to this man for saying this. Those in power must be continuously monitored!
The software development community is the most inclusive and open minded community I have ever been a part of. But people from the outside seem to vilify us from solely an outsiders perspective.
Was just wandering what's Mr.Harari's opinion about the current situation in Belarus because clearly we're experiencing the lack of democracy alongside humanity on behalf of the current government?
môžete od povedať na otazku ako sa dá veriť CIA ktorý z ktoré strany
The fundamental problem of ethics education is this: if the companies don't care, it doesn't matter how much you educate the software engineers about ethics. Unlike doctors, there is no independent board certifying software engineers. There are no incentives to hire only "board certified" software engineers or for software/sites to carry a label "produced by board certified software engineers". And unlike being a doctor, you can be a decent software engineer without a university degree and so you can have professionals that completely bypass those gating systems. Companies won't do it as long as one company has an advantage for not doing it. The main rationale for the existence of government is the fallacy of composition: it's no single person's interest to do it, but it's in everyone's interested to do it.
s ktoré univerzity vyšla WW2
na zástave v bielom kruhu sú dva písmená 🔤 Z Z tuším že v Nemecké abecede sa číta ss SS z ktoré vyšli armáda smrti stále tu ne sú od kódované dva písmenká
Yes monitor the elite well spoken mr Harari
If I were to dig a well, I would not invite mine enemy to come to my well on the first day and drop poison into it. That is what asking Microsoft to enforce ethics is doing, inviting my enemy to poison my well.
Microsoft CEO doesn't seem to remember that money is speech.
The Democracy getting hijacked by corporates with technology & Puppet?
Woke algorithm ?
What I take out of this discussion is the recognition/admission by microsoft of the dangers of not reigning in technology and tech companies. This is a public platform and they can't run away from it. So, keep up the good work Prof Harari, Athens Democracy Forum and Deepfake!
I have read all the work of Harari, those are truths. I simply cannot ignore the contents
It's like invention of machine guns and chemical weapons....both threatened the existence of human kind...We fixed it by controls and prohibition. Personal information is the same thing. Id & information should be permanently disected.It could only be combineded by the authority. Just like a passport...so it could not be manipulated!
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Hej Yuval,nice to see you again. Historian? in which topic?...Israel...hmm, as someone said "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" Anyway, a person engaged or learned in philosophy, especially as an academic discipline should be at least to know that, you are not speaking about science. I hope that you would understand it. Therefore, we advice you as many times others tell you, that , in order to speak about science without knowing what it means, is like " A fool is made more of a fool, when their mouth is more open than their mind.” Bro, take good notes at university (physics, biology, mathematics or whatever) keep them all and work hard (10 or 15 yrs and so on) later, come here and teach to the rest. That is the way, bro. First you learn, and after that, you are able to teach something, and no vice versa. This is the best advice someone could give you, cause your talkings and youtube videos are lacking the right kind of effort to help your ideas get a hearing by the common. Mostly it sounds weird as something elaborated by a functional illiterate. To be honest, I dont think that, but as I said it sounds odd. Think about it, cheers.
Its always an honour to listen Yuval
Pointless empty words
Maybe, I repeat maybe we are all harnessed in the spider's web where one part is PERFECT, one part is IMPERFECT and one part is NEUTRAL as in a ship propeller everything is "ENERGY" and nothing is left to chance......... 26.10.2020 homo sapiens sapiens Forse, ripeto forse siamo tutti imbrigliati nella tela del ragno in cui una parte e' PERFETTA una parte e' IMPERFETTA ed una parte e' NEUTRA come in una elica da nave tutto e' "ENERGIA" e nulla e' lasciato al caso.........26.10.2020 homo sapiens sapiens
My dear musketeers, I insist with the neutral because it is the object of study of the most avid scholars of physics & chemistry & psychiatry & psychology & philosophy & mathematics on your Planet Earth..........! neutral atom neutral energy neutral algorithm neutral empty dear greetings 26.10.2020 homo sapiens sapiens Miei cari moschettieri, insisto con il neutro perche' e' l'oggetto di studio dei piu' accaniti studiosi di fisica & chimica & psichiatria & psicologia & filosofia & matematica sul Vostro Pianeta Terra..........!! atomo neutro energia neutra algoritmo neutro vuoto neutro cari saluti 26.10.2020 homo sapiens sapiens
The IMPERFECTION that exists today won't win, but unfortunately the PERFECTION won't win either, so the NEUTRAL will win and we will finally find out that the NEUTRAL ALGORIThm exists 26.10.2020 from the via latea galaxy. Non vincera' L' IMPERFEZIONE che esiste oggi ma purtroppo non vincera' neppure LA PERFEZIONE quindi vincera' IL NEUTRO e finalmente scopriremmo che esiste L' ALGORITMO NEUTRO 26.10.2020 dalla galassia della via latea...!!
homo sapiens sapiens do not be angry but living is a catastrophe a disaster because the "quantum system" is not perfect.......conclusion the cosmos the universe and the infinite are imperfect......a real disaster a real catastrophe ! question, who or what can help you ?? 24.10.2020 Planet Earth...........(strictly personal opinion ) homo sapiens sapiens non arrabiarti ma vivere e'un disastroso e' una catastrofe poiche' il "sistema quantico" non e' perfetto.......conclusione il cosmo l'universo e l'infinito sono imperfetti......un vero disastro una vera catastrofe ! domanda, chi o che cosa ti puo' aiutare ?? 24.10.2020 Pianeta Terra..............(opinione strettamente personale)
Hi yuval, can you please do a detailed video on vipasana meditation. It wud be quite worthy for ur followers.
Thanks for posting the entire discussion for free. I am glad that this thought provoking discussion is not limited to those in power and with money to pay for a seat in the conference room and network with one of their likes. Access to knowledge to the public for free is so important, and I hope to see more world leaders and organizations open up their digital archives like this.
Yuval is on point as usual, however I disagree with him on one thing he said. Regarding educating tech people with ethics clases, as doctors are educated. As a physician and researcher I can say that most of the time mandatory ethics classes that docs need to take are not so much welcomed and usually dismissed by “just passing this another mandatory check”. I think what makes physicians and researchers humane and ethical is a selection process that is implemented at all education and career steps. For example an overall hospital environment and values that shape youngsters.
If the majority of people had multidisciplinary knowledge and systems thinking we'd be way beyond where we are now. We'd allow science and technology to be used for our common societal benefits, not for the profits of the industrial tops. One could argue that In our monetary-based society the vast majority is busy with surviving by doing jobs they hate so the last thing they care about is learning about what matters in the world. Even the corporate rich folks, as Yuval fairly pointed out, are too busy to learn how to see the big picture. Though not many realize that breaking up with money is incredibly hard systematically. Money is an idea that unites everyone as everyone believes in its existence despite your our age, nationality, religion or political affiliation. If tomorrow everyone stopped believing in money, it will be gone but then there would chaos as there's no replacement of such a powerfully uniting idea that everyone believes in. Another powerful side of money is its usefulness as a tool. Humans have been creating and using tools for millions of years; our tools have changed a lot over that time but our brains have not changed much; physiologically, we have the same brain that our ancestors, hunters and gatherers had, now using digital devices instead of spears to get our food.
Yuval, I believe it's something of an assumption and probably a false one to suggest that all those who are lockdown skeptics, or fail to recognise the science in mask-wearing, are people who don't read the New York Times and are therefore uneducated or ignorant. And who decides what's fake and what's true? As you know better than most, intelligent people can be duped by fake news (e.g. Guardian: www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/01/why-smart-people-are-more-likely-to-believe-fake-news) but many scientific issues around this new virus are genuinely uncertain - with governments as often as conspiracy theorists suggesting otherwise. The current binary system of 'fake' or 'truth' is unhelpful given reality so often lies on the path between these two extremes.
That lady must come from a Modigliani paint, i guess
I ONLY LOVE PERFECTION !! so just because nobody cares I express my opinion that I hope not to go back to living anywhere because life in the quantum cosmos as in the quantum universe as in the infinite quantum is useless insignificant and inconclusive. 20.10.2020 mauro stocovaz italy europa PLANET EARTH
Has economic and technological divide has helped conspiracy theories to propagate more?
Yuval, you know well how to play your cards, dont you?
Amazing and important conversation
Not sure the New York Times is any more reliable these days. It seems to have become just as biased.
Sorprende sempre la lucidità ed acutezza del pensiero di Yuval Harari. Molte cose su cui riflettere. Grazie.
Fact check? Who checks the fact checkers? Where's the freedom?
A course in ethics is BS. It will merely teach unethical people how to be unethical without anybody suspecting them. GMAB!!!
USA decmocratic??? HAHAHAHAHAH!!! That is a good one! :)
Kristen says she helps people to be "educated" against misinformation and also protects MEDIA and Corporations! Sounds contradictory, dont you think?? Who pays you, Kristen??..... ah, you are Expert Assessor in Google!! Now I understand!! :D :D :D !!
Yuval talks about how normal is to fall into conspiracy theories, saying that people always bring them up when new technologies arise! After 15 minutes he says, careful, that surveillance systems can detect your emotional frequency and be controlled by governments!!
Yuval is as determined by his personal point of view than any other!
I’d never heard of Yuval until I watched this video, but I could listen to Him talk for ages. Not only is he eloquent, his insights and arguments are enlightening. Just such an interesting thinker. Thank you very much for this video!
Conspiracy is =/= of geometry of doubt / current measure of we
What ? How come some body knowing u better than yourself make you feel ,think ( considered by you or around u ) as a treat or fear for men he fit that for him self as new charter of manness . Instead of hiding self or blocking event around world.living in this time consists both what is inpast with mathematical lugistic manifestation of now differnated by people
This should be a famous quote of Mr. Harari ( Dictatorship is like a weed it grows everywhere and democracy is like a rare flower).
Thank you. Rare flower ! And the truth is Ethically complicated 🌍🌷❤
FDR mastered radio, JFK & Reagan mastered TV and Trump mastered social media...
True.... Which is the reason they are currently using to manipulate and control those social media spaces. That tells me they don't REALLY care that much about democracy.
Privacy laws? Thank god nobody breaks laws.
China is in full force to use AI to monitor and control it's population, they have great advantage over western powers, they are experimenting on their minaries, like Uyghurs, Tibetans, Dings, and so on. And they are in process of giving their expertise to Other dictators around the world, American corporations and Capitalist created this monstrous regime in China, now they have to kiss Xi's ass or to get out of China. Cooperate America and billionaires own US government, so government serves their interest not people's interest.
let's face it: technology equals Facebook
In 2016 only 55.5% of people of voting age actually voted in the US. That's pretty dismal for a country that is supposedly so free and democratic.
I needed a criminal record check to clean the bathrooms and mop floors at a grocery store. When joining the army they do a psychological test. There doesn't seem to be any such check on politicians to see if they are a narcissist or a psychopath which I would argue is infinitely more important.
I would say there's not been a president who has not been a narcissist in your lifetime easily
please show me a place on this planet where are still exist democracy..thank you...
democracy does not mean what the west tells about it. democracy= dehmoc+ racy= deh = village .. demos=villager.. democracy= getting villagers support ... in the forms of giving them promises, gifts, entertainments,... who has the most supporters among mobs, he rules !!! therefore democracy=demon crazy !!!!
9:28 Observable context is always the invisible elephant in the room beyond paradigms of reality put forward in speech.
Democracy is relatively new and born to overcome exploitation. It has so far focused on its introduction, and now the challenge is to protect it. So far it's about allowing elections which is supposed to magically create a democracy. Now the focus must be to deliver & protect every citizen. The democratic charter was originally designed to protect an individual from societal exploitation first and then offer equal opportunity. Today the individual needs greater protection from the state, the policy and law makers themselves. The future of democratic charter has to be dynamic and defined by milestones, dependent on the numbers & their socio economic starting point. To try and give individual rights to few 100 million could work. But to give the same rights to billions of disparate segments is not practical.
Of course, the scope of information technology is no longer just a matter of technology. It has gradually become a culture. That is why discipline is important.
It has been a while now since Professor Yuval Harari started asking the key questions and voicing the key concerns regarding the future of democracy and freedom, but unfortunately it sounds like "The voice of one crying in the wilderness". Neither governments nor high-trechs or the media seem to be interested in preserving democracy, let alone freedom.
Been ethical all my life worked in service organisations just struggle St .only money and freedom to be made opting out of society altogether or immersing yourself in business that deals with inanimate objects like selling creams makeup and general shit ha ha
Freedom comes with non consumption no debt savings emergency fund .working less .no gvt no media no newspapers Facebook etc just for family close friends communication .no other social media .having cash assets for mobility and ignoring humanity sticking to only family and friends rest baggage and full of entrenched conditioned beliefs trying to brainwash you ha ha .get back to nature .travel as much as able .opt out of society as much as possible .people like this need you to listen to their bullshit to grow their empires
It is imperative that each and every one of us, without exception, become well-informed, free of misinformation and disinformation, about what is actually taking place in the world today.
@Bobby Cecere Trump does not like the idea of sending in troops to invade, bomb, and occupy the people of other nations. Biden does.
@Bobby Cecere Biden is an Establishment Democrat.
@Bobby Cecere Trump is a fat cat. He is more concerned with serving the rich rather than serving the working class & the poor.
@Michael Epstein You are correct that both Trump and Biden have bent the knee but you are ignoring the orders of magnitude that separate the two.... Trump is not Biden. Not even kind of.
No matter who wins, it is imperative that each and every one of us, without exception, helps to build a Majority Voting Bloc in their city/town/village made up of individuals who are well-informed, free of misinformation and disinformation, on all the major issues of today AND who are devoting their time, energy, resources and talents to the political process, esp. the campaigns, to make sure that only the most Loving/most Wise among us become our public servants. No matter who wins, it is imperative that each and every one of us, without exception, hold their feet to the fire during their term of office.
Traducir al español,please
I Like your socks Noah 😆
Thanks for the grate discussion.
Píše sa rok 2020 a stále existuje trestný čin lacné pracovné sili ponižovania začalo USA Anglicko a Hitler myslel na konečne riešenie
Harari : " COVID -19 legitimizes the Big Tech steps" And it all is done under the umbrella of the Savety mythe. Or to increase user-friendliness for its customers. The real reason, it being Control, is left out of the equation. In pre-Corona times these big tech steps would cause much more opposition in the form of public opinion, petitions, demonstrations, court cases, etc.,but when they do 'it' dúring a 'health crisis' all the opposition is preoccupied with all the covid measures imposed on them If they wánt them or not ! So all their energy and focus remains on those crisisrelated shit. And as soon as you as a loner dare to deviate from that, within the group you are in, then YOU are the true culprit. And per definition a 'genuine conspiracy thinker'! So the group is very busy with itself! From that moment on Big Tech ( biotech & infotech ), together with their loyal servants in politics ( blackmailed by the Tech lobbyists, refrained from any kind of sense of ethics ) can do its thing. And with relative ease and without the bother of the opposition. So the industry claims to be doing all this merely for the benefit of its clients ( the neoliberal mantra : The customer is always right ) but avoids méntioning the 'f'-word, which has a brand new meaning nowadays: 5G. It won't háve to, because during this Panicdemic every client is submerged in the Construct of Fear and tháts a 24/7 job!! Clever, isn't it ?!
On the last answer Yuval gave : " Technology which protécts me " is like having a anti-war peace parade on the 'autobahn' in Germany during the reign of the Nazi's which constructed the infrastructure mainly for efficient transport /spreading of their militairy equipement. ! Technology for the real and éthical good of the people HAS to make use of the excisting infrastructure of the ones in hyperpower , those who do NOT communicate to their users what their REAL plans are. So in that sense its a humongous dilemma. And wishfull thinking.
Brad Smith learned a LOT of the shrewed and cunning rethoric Bill Gates uses.
If one would be convinced of the sincerety of this director of Microsoft in everything he said then you múst be living under a very large stone for the last three decades !! Like Harari said : " Covid legitemizes all the 'necessary big technological steps !" SO this covid 'crisis' IS completely a BIG opportunity for multinationals like Microsoft. ( Bill Gates is thé biggest sponsor of the W.H.O.) Covid is completely 'up their street !'
Concerning what to read : When reading Plato, his cave analogy which we know as Plato's Cave, is a very striking one, concerning the way the power hungry ( like Microsoft, mainstream media, politicians ) WANTS us to belief. If one underline these power behaviors one is stigmaticed as béing a conspiracy thinker! Voilá . Ever since the book of Mark Lane in 1965, the CIA ( creáting the term Conspiracy Theory and Nixon, who started using it ) this term has been used to make opponents shut the fuck up.
Harari asks Brad of Microsoft : " Do you have a course on ethics?" Of cóurse this Brad sais Yès. And than formulates his typical answer ( lets never forget people like this Brad person are tráined in communication tactics, just like politicians in power). Like politicians they cónstantly adjúst their story to the situation in which they are. In THIS setting our dear Brad is using triggerwords used by environment activists and thinkers like Yuval. Very very sneaky.
At 6:00 min when the corporate person ( of Microsoft ?) speaks his choise of wórds is SO typical (again ) because he KNOWS how Harari thinks ! 'So we just (!) do what the people ( customers !) want!' > which is one of THE strongest caracteristics of Neoliberalism.