Justice: What's The Right Thing To Do? Episode 01 "THE MORAL SIDE OF MURDER"

रोजी प्रकाशित केले 4 सप्टेंबर, 2009
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PART ONE: THE MORAL SIDE OF MURDER
If you had to choose between (1) killing one person to save the lives of five others and (2) doing nothing even though you knew that five people would die right before your eyes if you did nothing-what would you do? What would be the right thing to do? Thats the hypothetical scenario Professor Michael Sandel uses to launch his course on moral reasoning. After the majority of students votes for killing the one person in order to save the lives of five others, Sandel presents three similar moral conundrums-each one artfully designed to make the decision more difficult. As students stand up to defend their conflicting choices, it becomes clear that the assumptions behind our moral reasoning are often contradictory, and the question of what is right and what is wrong is not always black and white.
PART TWO: THE CASE FOR CANNIBALISM
Sandel introduces the principles of utilitarian philosopher, Jeremy Bentham, with a famous nineteenth century legal case involving a shipwrecked crew of four. After nineteen days lost at sea, the captain decides to kill the weakest amongst them, the young cabin boy, so that the rest can feed on his blood and body to survive. The case sets up a classroom debate about the moral validity of utilitarianism-and its doctrine that the right thing to do is whatever produces "the greatest good for the greatest number."

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  • THATS THE POWER OF SCIENCE...EVERYONE IN ANY CORNER WITH INTERNET HAVE ACCESS TO THESE QUALITY LECTURES FREELY. IF EDUCATION BECOME FREE THEN SOCIETY CAN PROGRESS RAPIDLY.

  • Well, first of all why the hell you ran faster?. A mistake will not be resolve by another mistake.

  • Stupid Harvard students 🤦‍♂️

  • They could speak for an hours while not talking a solid word, that’s Harvard, lie made by gold

  • My first thought of the run away trailer scenario: Im goona turn the steering wheel so hard that the trailer would crash or turn it self side way before I got any chance to hit any worker down the road. Maybe killing myself for sure, that's what ill choose. Remember there's always a choice when you think there's no choice.

  • There are other options always available

  • Law is a jealous mistress..

  • Too many asians compared with latinos. Something is wrong you should give more scholarships to us.

  • same if i give the report muller i recive at all ask im not sure iwhat the person going to do imagine if i give when senat ask and whit see there all bad person say to me for give

  • only thing good law rico born

  • je suis sur parceque en ce moment je vais surment me faire tuer parceque jai pas accepter davoir vue des enfant et autre dans des trafick humain et jai rien fais ladedans as part avoir vue et les cartel ne maime pas jai decider des stoller pareil meme si je savait bien que les gouvernement aller decider de me faire mourir pour pas que la verite sorte

  • i dont push i decide jump at is place

  • i dont puch i jump at is place

  • no me i continue because i start to horn and is straight worker see me the guy work imshelft don see me and curve im not sure i make and after the curve what he have town?

  • And therefore, our noble people, What is the transcendent superior wisdom, for the sake of Global Humanity, Oneself, and Immortality, according to the Ancient Secret Chinese Wisdom Tradition; what are the five kinds of the most prosperous, most powerful knowledge and wisdom that every individual could and should possess? Paideia Esoteric Society.

  • minimizing victims if any at all creates the greatest happiness... no answer for the Mignonette. I guess they had Filet Mignonette.

  • Stupid how students from Harvard laugh listening to a fat man on the bridge! What’s so funny

  • I have watched this 5 times over the past 5 years and have watched with my grandchildren. I love that you never know where this man stands...it’s about learning and not about his political “side”. Doing the right thing should not have a side.

  • And I thought Harvard students are the smartest!

  • I have a question if anyone willing to answer plz reply, "What if those guys are 5 miles away so you can't see them and the single guy is 5 feet away and if you don't pull the trigger, 5 people will die but you won't see that and you will know but if you pull the trigger and that 1 person will die but in front of you and very near to you. What will you do?"

  • The explanation cost a thousand of dollars!

  • To the first question, what happened to the horn? And to the second question, non could swim and they couldn’t think to fish? Was it a persistent storm that made them not to?

  • The lottery seems more ‘morally permissible’ bc in the view of ppl it takes away the element of the crew having complete accountability- in the actual case they all decided to kill the boy without giving him the opportunity to fight for his life; there was a clear power imbalance. However, with the lottery, it would somewhat put them all on an equal playing field; the final choice of who dies isn’t decided by the crew themselves but fate and probability. In the perspective of outsiders, knowing that the death was fundamentally based on uncontrolled variables makes it easier for them to distance themselves from the crime as it makes it easier for them to overlook concepts of premeditation, execution and ill motivation toward the victim.

  • Zdalo sa mi že slnko ☀ ma svoju abecedu videl som písmenká a maľovanie a tuším hlas aj vlny rozprávať

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  • *The girl at **37:05** looks like Charli + Dixie D’amelio combined* 😂

  • Funfact: Africa has had more female presidents and heads of states than USA and Europe and Asia combined

  • If teachers of this caliber taught in our elementary and high schools the world would change dramatically for the better in one or two generations.

    • That is exactly why we should invest the money into education and not the development of weapons of any sort or any other nonsense. It is indeed truly unbelievable how great our world would become

  • V jedne miestnosti za stolom vidieť dva obrazy Hitlera v jedne

  • Universities ... places to Explor ... to discover ... the unknown. Hopefully a important lesson. And Five Workers ... or one worker? I miss one opportunity. To lead my car to a direction to kill just myself.

  • *41.00* I don’t think you can be coerced into dying. The person is going to defend themselves until their last breath if they want to stay alive

  • 1. 0:00 - 13:00 2. 13:06 - 24:04 3. 24:40 - 29:57 4. 30:04 - 34:54 5. 50:12 - 54:40

  • 12:25... depends on if the guy sleeping is a trolley operator.

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  • Welcome to you all world people ❤️💙❤️ Justice's. Scales are in your hands only for real judgement. All world Justice God bless 🙏❣️🙏 you.

  • العمل عمل رب العالمين. انا مسكين ما عندي قدره الله اسامح و اقول لكم كفى الله المؤمنيين شر القتال الدور عندكم انتوا اصحاب القدره و العفو عند المقدره من شيم الكرام.

  • Mne sa zdalo že slnko ☀ ma svoju abecedu videl som písmenká

  • On the topic of whether it is morally just to take the life of a human being, I think not. Here is a situation where there was consent from the cabin boy to give his life to save the other crew members but murder is murder. It is categorically and morally wrong to commit murder. The cabin boy had a right to life just like the others. Even though he was dying he should have been given the dignity of dying in peace. I do not agree with Jeremy Bentham’s Utilitarian principle “for the greater good of all”.

    • Let’s make for an interesting debate. I think it was acceptable. morality is not an objective thing, is not something that existed but we didn’t discovered until modern days and is certainly not something that apllyies in every situation. Morality is a concept that we invented to function as a society, as a group of people, because you need Some rules in order for the comunity to be better and so for each individual to be safer, i mean that in order to function you need to not put others life in danger, that’s why we have moral rules like don’t kill, don’t hurt someone etc. The problem here is when morality reasons put your life in danger, then morality doesn’t aplly. Let’s Take for example a case of robbery. Ussually is imoral to Shot Someone, but in the case in which that person is in your house and has a gun, your life is put in danger and guess what, it is acceptable to Shot that person to prevent you to be killed. Why the morality doesn’t aplly here? Because here the morality that we use ussually is against it’s main role, the one which protect individuals life from others. The Same concept aplly here. By not killing that man your life is in danger, so by following the ussual morality you as an individual kill yourself, that’s Why you cant aplly ussual morality here, because the context has changed and when the morality doesn’t protect your life the main principle that is aplied is what Marcus Said,, you have to do what you need to do in order to survive” i’m sorry for my english but i hope you understand the point i presented.

  • So they do teach the difference between hate speech and free speech... The reason why americans don't know it then must be that they can't afford to go to harvard

  • Thank you Harvard. Never thought I would be privy to such awakening. Skepticism is never a solution.

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  • Haha, this reminded me Dr. Sapolsky's lecture❤️

  • Great Professor, great teaching approach.

  • The professor is...very funny!

  • You are great maan😀

  • i have no idea what they are talking about

  • Well Prepared Profisor

  • Tywin Lannister?

  • The professor finished high school in 1971, so was it moral for him to not serve in Vietnam?

  • No one has a right to take someone's life with or without consent .Let fate and time determine that. @ RWANDA

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Usted reciba la palabra y use su don. Disculpe el sometimiento y no a de caer. -No señora por allí, en el pueblo es de marrana, si má es rana. No, no, podemos ayudarle desde aquí, tiene que ir por allí. (Gritaban desde la ventana) -No señora hombre no hay. Es duos. Y madre tampoco es sin hijo aceptado. -Tiene que ir por allí.llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllo. Siguiente. Uf esto no está pagado, tenían que poner un chillón. -Sentándose despavorido en la silla. No más de 50 años contaría el señor. -Todos, huérfanos hermano. Disponga entonces Se escuchaba desde fuera. - Si, si por allí. Asomaba una mano por la ventana. -Cuanta miseria va a pintar el rico aquel, los quitiplines no se los pinta? -Dice su Mercé que solo se firmará el que se venda. Y la mitad es para la escuela. -Contestaba una joven moza. Era lozana y oscuro su pelo. Desde la fuente proseguían. -Señor entiendo su indignación pero está usted disgustado con todos. -Así es, todo el que ha hecho leña del árbol caído. Tenemos que conseguir que el trabajo de estudio no se venda. Tala, tala un talarín y apunta. “Que doblado no es morir… Si de pimpollo cortarse más fuerte seras de tallaje”. (paró su ensueño) te llevaste la llamada del árbol, bruto. “Detrás no as de ir pero el tiempo tiende a repetir (volvió a ensoñar y con mirada feroz cambió hacia su contario) ¿No dijimos que de una navaja se hiciere? Señor sabrá usted que tampoco puede ofrecer todo lo desarrollado… -Padre dio orden de eso, no querías burro que hablara. Esto es distinto son de la escuela. Desde el balcón se dictaminó camino a voz sonante. -Palabra por palabra q no pagasen, que de sus miserias encontrasen, tiene testigos. -Toma hermano Andrés que a todos nos alcanza. Una señora incitaba a tomar la palabra. Hoy no está el sordo. -Yo soy del corazón, Vara en mano desde antaño. -Siempre hay un roto por un descosido, de mente hay que moverse y no da la vida para ser uno, prosiga. -Pos mire señor que sea con dios sea mi verdad, que me construí una casa de familia, que crié y partí de la calle 29 desde las francas del rodus. -En ti yo para los restos los mismos demonios, que de ser así es también larga su vida. Detrás de la fuente, sentados entre unas palmeras y unos olivos se seguían discutiendo. -Que diga que sigue las leyes del Rey Salomón y no sabe leer. Y conteste. Tenga mi beneplácito también chaval. -Esto así maestro… -Por eso es de la primada. Usted limpie todos los rollos como hace y valla poniendo lo que veamos. Si no hay ciencia cierta amigo la habrá la habrá usted prosiga. -¿Qué pueblo tiene entrada hoy? -Má y edil. Habían varias personas en la fuente, dos niños de araposos ropajes y varios aldeanos. Uno de los niños fue poco a poco por detrás de los relajados hablantes cuando cogió una hogaza de pan y corrió gritando. -Calvo y mancio, calvo y mancio. -Una señora de muy gritón importunar, mando y gesto. -¡Niño más respeto y más consideración con las personas, ardieras en el fuego eterno! Ya eres grande para no tener educación. Disculpe usted la estupidez humana ingenioso hidalgo. -Lleve usted la bendición de dios y su misericordia le ampare. Agradecido estoy. Bajando la voz más de amistad. -Siempre existirán personajes estereotipados. -¿Subimos para la vega antes de que termine la mañana? -¿En necesario pasar dicha ansiedad? -El beneplácito del pueblo hay que considerarlo como don mi señor. Tiraban de los corceles lentamente, como si de pasear no fuere mientras en la esquina que dejaban detrás alguien hacía sonar una campana. Marcaba la hora de cambio de organización a la vez que la propia. Herrería y molino, tiempo de respirar, una mirada y un proseguir. Se vieron sumergidos en una bullir de condiciones varias, vega era su nombre. Fueron dos veces las que compraron cuando pasaron como halcones. -¿Sois de agrego? -Si señora de pañuelo de algodón. -Mira tengo esto y esto. Déjame uno pequeño hoy. -Muy agradecida señora, le deseo lo mejor. -Zagal a cuanto tienes los cestos. Continuó el hidalgo. -La voluntad señor en comida. -Dele esta grande a este señor que yo te serviré. Bien me nutre ramal de Figueroa y pura es mi precesa. De Leonor por nombre en casa y de hacienda real. Y en Zaguán viviere. Llenó una cesta igual que la que se quedase y de igual forma de los puestos de alrededor terminaron de hacer el mandao. -Sea usted por siempre agua fresca y sumérjase en pozos para ver el vuelo de los alturas. Tenga romero del camino y plumas de los mejores colores, veo que es de agradecer. Por siempre de la casa de los Gregorios. -Ya vi antes que sois agraciados con el lucir fiesta y de corazón digo quien pudiera acompañar un ratico. -Detrás de los descansos, con partida a casa nos hallamos. De mañana en primeras cuevas del siguiente campo nos hallemos de camino. Pero sepa que aquí como allí usted tendrá unas gachas para reponer y lugar de reposo. -Con Dios. -Con Dios. Me mató el rey al no concederme la mancia. Y compró andar con casas grandes y casa para el pueblo que conocía la existencia de Polo Pon. Don Pedro y yo protegidos aquello hasta llegada a justa medida. Se escuchaba gritar frente el balcón del confrontado. Subía un carruaje más veloz que airado, se paró al nivel de los caballos, que andaban atados al lado de la otra campana. -Te hubiera contestado antes, pero ya con Lucera y Triunfanta es imposible no ir como dios del pregonero. Salió voz de aquella señora en blanco atuendo y lujoso encaje de sombrero. -Tranquilo, por flojo no será, que tu fuerza el portal cribará. Escriba eso amigo. ¿Estos son los elegidos para comparar verdad? -Si, si, están perfectos pero son impetuosos. -Si por pensar mal á de ser, ese es el camino a escoger. Siga, siga. Tenga tranquilidad y desahogue si es necesario en un poco más adelante. Subamos. -Traigo noticias de la visión, se ha considerado que puede y debe hacerse público y por tanto dar versión clásica de voluntades patrióticas. Han aceptado el escrito de su mercé, como acto verdadero de consideración. Se verificó su manejo con la espada y su inmemorable dictar, nadie sospecha que tuviera mal alguno, cierto es aquella batalla y cierto es que al caer sobre la mesa se hiriera cosa que liberó en sí y dio posible no sufrieran particular mal gente de internos. En aquel enfrentamiento. Se debatirá su realidad publica de dominio próximo sábado. -Cerila, es de acompañarme a ver padre Juan. -Cuando guste mandamos preparar carruaje. -Considero que si por de cortadillo es de considerarme que sin duda El alivie mis penas en hacer doble lucha dentro de mi condena y liberarme al fin, por hacerme valer ante Dios y el humano. De demostrar doble teniendo la mitad y de ser traidor por tener y ser conocedor del saber y de acción. Escúchese al fin en mí mancia disposición de condición real. -Dispondrá su pedro antecesor en llamar a Sé rano va children. Es necesario en una pe dá nia y me lo solicitaron. -Como no, con gusto, es de acompañarme mientras preparan el carro. Tenemos disposición para un almuerzo. Que antiguo expresar y que nuevo en su bondad. -Andaré el camino a su mercé. No sufra por el apresto del vestido, es ocasión de cogerle del brazo. -Quedó el otro hombre encargado de cambiar animales mientras ellos subían por la plaza del pueblo. Llegaron a la cuesta donde se divisaba la casa del protectorado del Marques del Viso. Y las acciones del Virreinato. Por el camino de tan esbelta cuesta el olor a pan y a jazmín hacía una mezcla que le fue imposible de obviar. -No te apures, vamos a parar. -Ella desató tres lazos, el sobrero la rebeca y el corazón del mesonero. Quedó en él tal impresión que ni cuenta se dio del pedido que tenía que llevar a casa grande. El hidalgo potente le sonó su palabra. -Estás alelao, ¿traes el pedido para el momento? -Disculpe mi ausencia, me atrapó por un momento los ensueños de mañana mi señor. Siempre soy totalmente atento y de saber hacer. -Disculpe usted si no fui apropiado. Disponga tres grandes unos de cuadros y dos roscas. Queremos ofrecer también. Y docena y media de pan tostado de tomate y alba acá. -En breve les serviré en concilio. Gracias por su visita señora espero le sea de bien. Ella se sonrió y dijo -Gracias señor, todavía a de ser señorita. Espero que sea todo de tan buen gustar como de tan buen ver. Tenga buen dia. Se acercaban a las guirnaldas del virreinato. Ya se veía que la casa era de importancia suprema, su posición y su perfección, sumado a la identificación externa presuponían más de lo imaginado.

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  • Sandel is nothing but wannabe John Rowles. A failure

  • Once, you overheared a conversation between a suicidal person in your work place and a sociopath, the second one wants to kill the first who want to die, there is a "consent". So do you leave them alone or do you help separate the two, maybe even take them to see a therapist. In my opinion a crime is still a crime no matter what the situation.... Maybe most of us agrees that killing 1 is better then 5, but maybe that the 5 were bad citizens and the other one is a good one We can't favor a goupe of people on others. A groupe of smart, pretty, with a happy background on another worthless, misrable groupe. 'Cause in the long run, in the futur maybe groupe B will work to be more effective, and have more fulfilling life than groupe A. It's just fate which we don't have the power to know. So we just can't descriminate between people on what we feel correct but it's morally not

  • Could it stand for a ring of the truth when i'm captured by man eaters for a span of the following torture to use the original info with no parasites to count my chances to be honest.

  • There are a lot of beautiful and ugly people in this audience. Morally.

  • Is the question really about 'what a life is worth' or is about taking responsibility for your action as a free human? Wether you like it or not.

  • ya allah plz forgive me stop watching this.

  • I love this movie.

  • Please stfu nerd

  • THAT GIRL AT 5:21 ON THE LEFT. I SAY HI!

  • Ohhhh fuck such a muderos mind

  • Does anyone know where the episode 2 is?

  • I went to a non-ivy university and I've never gotten a lecture this light, leisurely and (seemingly) non-academic. What?

  • Only from truth and wisdom comes justice. Only from justice comes harmony and order. Only from harmony and order comes peace and stability.

  • Just watched the entire lecture imagining him as Tywin Lannister.

    • Lmaoo this is so random, he does kind of look like Tywin Lannister though can’t lie

  • Why is it that so many student in the class?

    • this is one of their most popular classes

  • does anyone know what are the books enumerated in their syllabus??? :")

  • Yang milih allah like yg Mili dajal hirawkan 1:39.........m.

  • His look resembles Sheldon Cooper.

  • 16:55

  • For the 9/11 one the people in the plane die anyway. Better to sue the equipment aisle they let it malfunction than being directly responsible for a death.

  • This reckless driver and his car is 🇨🇳Biden!

  • Instead of killing any innocent workers, self destruct! The driver is the reckless one who got himself into a situation that he cannot control in the first place! Hit P (for park) in transmission, then open the window if the driver is still alive to get the workers to notice a stupid moron is about to kill them, so they can run out of the way! Steering the course is deliberate murder! Staying on the course is accident! Stopping the course by self destruct is Christian 🇺🇸! That’s why 🇺🇸 Is such a great country until the turn 2008, when a 👎🇨🇳Harvard grad became the 🇺🇸 President and led recklessly for his own survival by sacrificing innocent others! 👎🇨🇳Harvard!

  • Removing 🇺🇸⭐️Elise Stefanik⭐️🇺🇸 from your board is a murder of 🇺🇸!

  • 💩🇨🇳 Harvard!

  • I can actually say I’ve went to Harvard!

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  • Amazing...

  • Why to go to those useless schools, when one can learn lot's of stuff free.

  • Fantastic Lecture.. A lot to learn...

  • 12:31 was 🔥🔥

  • In the case second about if I were the doctor I'm had a choice to no help anyone cause no one should live when another dies

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  • whole existance of humanrace must be in harmoney with nature this is justice.

  • This sounds very familiar with The Good Place. The producer probably watch this while creating the show.

  • both of the examples (the boat one and the trolley car one) aren't even illegal in my country and I seriously don't understand why the majority would convict dudley and steven for saving their own's life. that's exactly the definition of a self-defense because the only other option they had was D Y I N G

  • This guy made me think, get involved in the discussion even though I had stumbled upon it by mistake.

  • Harvard has so many asians up to now. Happy to see them.

  • EHICS paper UPSC students like xd

  • too easy

  • IMO, these students aren't as bright as I thought they would be with their answers (except the last guy at 50:00) I think that to solve the trolly problem with two tracks, the answer is to save the 4 workers not only one because this will save more lives (not because it will cause the death of less lives) when both took the same risk. The second one with the fat guy on the bridge, now you need to have the perspective of these people, the 4 workers on the tracks, they have put themselves in the way of danger already working there and they get paid for it, they know the consequence of not being aware of your surroundings when working in such a place and they consciously took the decision to stand on the tracks. While the guy up the bridge did not sign up for that and he knows that there's minimum risk standing on the bridge that the train would never get to him up there, so he consciously took the decision to be safe. Now back to the passer by perspective, he shouldn't push the fat guy, why? Because the fat guy didn't take the decision to be on the tracks, the workers did and they have to reap what they sow because of their lack of awareness despite working in a job that they know is dangerous. (it's like choosing to give cancer to 4 smokers or to 1 non smoker, the non smoker consciously tried to avoid the consequences of smoking (cancer) but the smokers knew there could be consequences for their actions, it's pretty much similar to this example, so save the non smoker for his good behavior) The example with the guys in the boat, murder is murder that sums it up, they have no right whatsoever to take an innocent life (even if that means their death) even if they were a million on that boat, they can't kill an innocent human being, why? because he doesn't deserve to get killed, he's innocent.

  • The trolley idea is to minimize victims. Within Bentham's idea of the greatest happiness is the idea of minimizing victims or unhappiness. His idea does not exclude 100 percent. Some Harvard class. For the kids, think of the fewest victims when acting. Having no victims of course is possible. Not everything is a football game. Do you realize there are those who think it is impossible to be a winner unless there is a loser? Incredible isn't it. What a stupid class. I have cancer in my leg and must remove it or die. Minimize the damage. Remove the leg will bring the greatest happiness. Are these people in this class handicapped? The second idea is to not tear up what is good and whole. There are actually cultures that don't know that. If there is one good car they cannibalize it for windows and doors etc for their own shacks leaving only shacks in the end. Just think minimizing victims and if you are truly moral no victims at all. Within the events of man there are psychopaths who seize power through coercive forces. Adolph was a trolley car careening out of control and in that event there will be lives lost but the trolley must be stopped. These are immoral events. Minimizing victims is applied. Children should be taught that the person sitting next them is an immoral animal. They should be taught how to observe that behavior. Theft is most common. Stealing seats at Harvard for instance is theft.

  • Let the most likely to survive survive, and let the likely to die person die, that's what's going on in covid 2021. All the ICUs are doing this now

  • Condescendent teacher. Disgusting

  • What is the philosophy when someone gives himself in on the track to save all?